My question is can i use that LED bluish bulb

[Greg goes wild]

I have the front head lamp go out again I know it's a H7 55 wt. Can i get the bluish head lamp instead? IF so
what's the size no. n watts? Do you have to change out the light bulb sockets n so forth? IF i can use them
with the original sockets what do they cost?
Ghost rider Greg

2004 Silver Wing scooter
2010 Silver wing scooter
did have 2 Honda Helex's 250 cc scooter
2 Honda elite 150's
2 Aprilia Atlantic 500 cc scooters they were JUNK

 

[Minister of Etc]

It's an H7 bulb -- any bulb of that size can fit (doesn't have to be a "motorcycle" bulb).

I've used cheap ones, more expensive ones, and now have LEDs installed.

Generally, the brighter bulbs run, the shorter the lifespan on the road.

 

[Greg goes wild]

I do believe i had that same bulb go out about 1 yr ago. I need to look at the paperwork` i
have on it. I have noticed that when th kick stand goes down BOTH headlamps go out.
That just recently started happening. Before the head lights would stay on until i remove
the key.

 

[speedtoys]

But why?

The farther you are from 3K kelvin light, the less efficient your eyes are at seeing it..the goal -is- vision, right?

You can only get so many lumens out of a 12v bulb technology, why degrade the result?

You can throw technology at it, but..for the same input, there are better or worse wavelengths for the human eye to operate at.

Never understood making lighting up the roadway worse.

 

[DrCohen]

But why?
The farther you are from 3K kelvin light, the less efficient your eyes are at seeing it..the goal -is- vision, right?
You can only get so many lumens out of a 12v bulb technology, why degrade the result?
You can throw technology at it, but..for the same input, there are better or worse wavelengths for the human eye to operate at.
Never understood making lighting up the roadway worse.

The most visible pure color is a yellow-green with a wavelength of 550nm. But the most effective source of illumination is white light, so bulbs that are tinted (typically blue in "high performance" halogens) are a bad idea.
People shopping for the most effective headlight bulb should see this Car & Driver buying guide:

When you're shopping for white headlights, you should pay attention to the color temperature, which is measured in Kelvin units. The brightest halogen headlight bulbs are those with a color temperature of 4000K or 5000K. If you're planning to install LED or xenon HID headlight bulbs in your vehicle, opt for bulbs rated at 6000K.

Our eyes are presumably evolved to function best with natural daylight. The color temperature of daylight ranges from about 5000K (sun at horizon) to 5500K~6000K (sun at zenith). This squares pretty well with the recommendations in Car & Driver. I cannot find any research that recommends 3000K as the best color temperature for headlights.

 

[DrCohen]

It's an H7 bulb -- any bulb of that size can fit (doesn't have to be a "motorcycle" bulb).

I've used cheap ones, more expensive ones, and now have LEDs installed.

Generally, the brighter bulbs run, the shorter the lifespan on the road.

What LED headlight bulb are you using, please? Are you happy with the beam pattern? with the brightness? Your bike's "LAMP" warning doesn't trigger?
Did you have to do anything special to accommodate external bits like a fan or heatsink or driver?

 

[Minister of Etc]

What LED headlight bulb are you using, please? Are you happy with the beam pattern? with the brightness? Your bike's "LAMP" warning doesn't trigger?
Did you have to do anything special to accommodate external bits like a fan or heatsink or driver?

Sorry for the late reply, Doc, haven't been on this board in a bit. To answer your questions:

1. I'm using THESE. Did a pre-sales call with the team there, they promised they'd work, and they do.
2. Beam pattern's largely identical to a stock bulb, because the emitter is (supposedly) positioned in the same spot as the filament in an incandescent bulb. If you place the source of light in the same spot in a headlight, the mirrored enclosure does the rest.
3. 4,800 lumen, according to the website -- all I know is that it's brighter, and cooler/whiter than stock.
4. No LAMP warning.
5. 5. They install in the same holder as a standard bulb, but the rubber back covers for the enclosure won't fit back on. Does that matter? No, because the bulbs are waterproof (you can find a video on the Cyclops site of them operating a bulb in a full glass of water). You do have to zip-tie away the extra cabling, though -- I had my dealership do it when I was having a rear tire put on and an oil change, because they offered to do it for free.

I've had them installed for 20,000 miles now, ride in the rain frequently for 2-3 hours at a time, and haven't had any issues.

 

[DrCohen]

Thanks, Minister! This is very helpful. I have replaced my low beam bulb twice in 7K miles, and it's not too difficult to do from underneath without removing any bodywork. I'm optimistic that I could install the Cyclops as easily, if I ziptie or tape the excess cabling before doing the install.

 

[Raykeeper]

I changed the stock Bulb with Philips blue, the color is more white than the stock, however, the light output seem more dim... Finally replaced my low beam with the suggested LED (cyclops h7). I got really lucky i found a brand new on on ebay for 30 dollars. Anyways I had to modify the cover slightly. I cut it about 2 inches across to get he cables outside, All the plugs etc wont fit in the headlight housing. Then i zip tied them and put an electric tape on the opening slit i created.
HIGHLY recommended to upgrade everyones headlight to the cyclops. No error code whatsoever.

 

[DrCohen]

I bought Autoone LEDs at $30 for 2. Just used one to replace my high beam. No error codes, and light is pure white.
A bit easier to install than a halogen H7, because there's no worry about oil from your fingers, and because the exterior is the same as a halogen H7-- no fan or external electronics.
We'll see if they last longer than halogens.

 

[DrCohen]

I bought Autoone LEDs at $30 for 2. Just used one to replace my high beam. No error codes, and light is pure white.
A bit easier to install than a halogen H7, because there's no worry about oil from your fingers, and because the exterior is the same as a halogen H7-- no fan or external electronics.
We'll see if they last longer than halogens.

I replaced my low beam bulb with the other Autoone LED bulb. Two notes:

1. I replaced the high beam by simply reaching in from below. When I tried that on the low beam, everything was fine until I tried to re-engage the spring clip. One of the two spring clip legs would not engage. I finally had to remove the right side panel and the battery, then reach in with two long-handled screwdrivers to push the clip into its niche. I don't know why one clip out of four was so difficult.
2. After a few days, I'm starting to see an intermittent "*LAMP!" message on the C650GT display. I tried reaching up and pushing the electrical connector to make sure it was completely seated, and I almost burned my finger. Even through the rubber weather cover, the connector is HOT. I will try running the bike with the rubber weather cover off, so that the electrical connector is exposed to moving air.

 

[Greg goes wild]

I replaced my low beam bulb with the other Autoone LED bulb. Two notes:

1. I replaced the high beam by simply reaching in from below. When I tried that on the low beam, everything was fine until I tried to re-engage the spring clip. One of the two spring clip legs would not engage. I finally had to remove the right side panel and the battery, then reach in with two long-handled screwdrivers to push the clip into its niche. I don't know why one clip out of four was so difficult.
2. After a few days, I'm starting to see an intermittent "*LAMP!" message on the C650GT display. I tried reaching up and pushing the electrical connector to make sure it was completely seated, and I almost burned my finger. Even through the rubber weather cover, the connector is HOT. I will try running the bike with the rubber weather cover off, so that the electrical connector is exposed to moving air.

The connections should NOT be hot probably the wiring my guess is the wrong way.
My brother had to replace mine a while back ago n there was NO issues at all. Also when
my brother took care of thee failed light. He just went from the underside of the lights.
NO removing any side panels or battery.

 

[DrCohen]

The connections should NOT be hot probably the wiring my guess is the wrong way.
My brother had to replace mine a while back ago n there was NO issues at all. Also when
my brother took care of thee failed light. He just went from the underside of the lights.
NO removing any side panels or battery.

LEDs run hot. That is why most LED headlight bulbs have fans and/or heatsinks. See this link.
I am reasonably sure that no LED headlight bulb has polarity. Certainly the Autoone H7 bulbs I bought have no polarity. The Amazon listing reads

AUTOONE H7 LED Headlight Bulb, Super Bright 1:1 Mini Size LED H7 Light Bulbs, No Adapter Required Plug and Play, Non-polarity Fanless Halogen Replacement Bulb​

Therefore, it is meaningless to say "the wiring is the wrong way."

As I said, I was able to replace the highbeam bulb by reaching underneath, but one of the two legs of the spring clip on the lowbeam bulb was difficult to engage. It seems very unlikely that this issue was related to the LED bulb; almost surely I would have had the same difficulty if I were installing a new halogen bulb.

 

[Greg goes wild]

Thanks for sharing that link i did NOT know how HOT the LED h'S can get . i will steer clear
of them.

 

[DrCohen]

I bought Autoone LEDs at $30 for 2. Just used one to replace my high beam. No error codes, and light is pure white.
A bit easier to install than a halogen H7, because there's no worry about oil from your fingers, and because the exterior is the same as a halogen H7-- no fan or external electronics.
We'll see if they last longer than halogens.

Excellent white light with crisp beam patterns on high and low on my 2020 C650GT.
Low beam started to cause intermittent "LAMP" warning. Air temperature was in low 90s and electrical plug felt very hot. I removed the rubber cover and the problem stopped.
Given the price and the ease of installation, I'm happy.