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I thought I'd update as members of this forum gave helpful advice. I said at the start that I was unclear as to whether I wanted a retro style mc vs the brilliant practicality that the 650 - and scooters generally - offers. Well, I've ordered a Moto Guzzi v711. A key part of that was the...

Think you've bought the perfect bike for you. The issue I'm wrestling with is - the C650 is a fantastic machine...but if BMW produced a 400cc version, how much better for most people would that be? I suggest...significantly. Beerman

Great looking scooter. Which will you ride more, do you think?

There have been developments. The bank balance is still intact - Mrs Beerman has raised a practical objection (as she is prone to doing) to the C650: namely, that until the garage is reorganised to accommodate my Vespa, various road bikes and other 'stuff', the C650 won't actually fit. This...

Top secret, Hillwalker. The phrase 'don't tell him, Pike' springs to mind (won't work in the US, that quote). What this means is that I am still sitting on the fence. I will update as matters develop over the weekend! Beerman

Close to buying, folks. I will update you next week as to whether my nerve and bank balance remained intact, or whether I crumbled. Not looking good for the bank balance right now, but it is Friday evening so spirits are high...

I looked at the F800GT Skutorr. It's a very nice looking bike, and lighter than the C650 - but I think it comes down to how much you value the no-shift, weather protection, in-built storage and practicality of a scooter vs bike. I'm still weighing it up. Beerman

That would be great Skutorr; you have some magnificent IPA's over there! Good advice from all, thanks - any views on Sports vs GT? Beerman

...and interesting to hear, Hillwalker, that Stoke's attitude is similar - I had been thinking of going there instead of Wolves.

Hi Windplr, thanks for the feedback. I'm really pleased to hear that you like the bike. I am indeed looking at the 2016 model - is that what you have? On seat height, you are considerably taller than me but (I think) sufficiently competent to handle a bit of stretch...I do hope I am right...

Thanks Hillwalker, yes my local dealer is Benham's. They have indeed got 2 bikes 'in stock' - the Sports and GT models, but they seem incredibly (to me) reluctant to allow them to be taken for a test ride - even their own sales team acknowledge that it is going to be a touch tricky to sell a...

Advice required! I have been looking at the C650 for a while. I am very tempted to buy but some things are bothering me: 1. The dealer isn't overly keen on the bike. In the UK it has not been a big seller, and he (I think) looks down on scooters. 2. The reviews I read often comment on the high...