C400GT Touring

[jcdanzer]

Howdy Folks! My apologies if this thought has been duplicated before (I couldn't find it). I am interested in long distance touring on the C400GT, and by that I might mean something like 10-12 hour days across the US...say Louisiana to Oregon across 3 days. I realize that this is feasible for sure my concern is the CVT and how well, in this particular model, has been manufactured to do this. If this is an outright bad idea by all means share. I am not particularly concerned with speed, it is well documented that it can keep up and maintain but the wear and tear on the belt and other components at higher speeds (say 70MPH) for such a duration is this really just trashing the bike or no big deal at all, any mechanics out there that can give a solid information and perhaps not just opinion?

 

[wspollack]

@jcdanzer :

Well, I can tell you of some of my experience, but I don't know whether that constitutes "solid information" or whether it's "just opinion." If the latter, you can stop reading, because I'm not a mechanic.


2023, Eight Days in the Alps:

In July 2023, I participated in my fifth Edelweiss tour, in this case their Ultimate Alps: https://www.edelweissbike.com/en/motorbiketours/cua-the-ultimate-alps-tour

I did this on a rental C 400 X, and rode about 1,300 miles in nine days. This was not, of course, all-day highway droning, but they were c. nine-hour days, with a lot of hills:



The C 400 X was completely trouble-free.

I have about 70 "highlight-reel" videos in my gallery of that trip:

Edelweiss Ultimate Alps Tour, July 2023

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2024, Five Days in Eastern USA:

In May and June of this year, I did the kind of riding that I think you're talking about, on my own '23 C 400 GT. This was a trip from my home in the Albany, NY, area, to visit my daughter and her family in Asheville, NC.

This was two days down and two days back, about 400 or 500 miles each day, almost exclusively interstate highways, except for a fun detour in the middle of day two on the way down. Here are the back-to-back days going south:





(Continued in the next post, because of picture limitations in the forum.)

 

[wspollack]

2024, Five Days in Eastern USA (continued):

Here's my fun riding day, in the middle of my visit:



That included Deals Gap/Tail of the Dragon and the Cherohala Skyway. I put up a post and video of the former here: https://www.bmw-scooters.com/threads/400-at-the-gap-aka-tail-of-the-dragon-last-week.3132/

And here's the first day of the trip back home:



This trip was uneventful, too, except that the next day I discovered a flat rear tire when I was about 100 miles from home. (And I put up a post about tire problems and the dysfunctional nature of BMW Roadside Assistance here: https://www.bmw-scooters.com/thread...-rear-tires-in-as-many-weeks.3153/#post-26828 .)

A few weeks ago, I had that C 400 GT serviced at the dealership where I bought it (and its '22 predecessor) and where I get all my service done, Max BMW's Troy, NY, location. (In the winter, Max's four locations have a service in which your bike gets a free ride in a van with a bunch of bike chocks, the bike gets service done, and they return it to your house a week or so later. Keeps the techs busier than they would otherwise be, this time of year.)

It was just the normal 6,000-mile service, and neither the belt nor rollers were replaced. That's a 12,000-mile specification, according to the owner's manual, and the techs at Max certainly could have, if they thought it necessary, as the service department manager is not shy about phoning me, if he has suggestions for additional work.



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So, those are my two long-distance experiences. I don't see why your C 400 GT wouldn't be up to similar tasks, without breaking a sweat. I mean, the bike can go about 75mph at 7,000rpm, if you work up to that speed slowly. But in any event, the ECU won't let the bike go into a "red line" area, no matter what you do.

Thus, I don't see any problem with your proposed run. But, yep, I'm no mechanic -- all I've got is some experience with long days -- some boring, some very pleasant -- on the scoot.

Good luck with your plans, @jcdanzer, and welcome to the forum.

 

[wspollack]

Here's the second day, on the way home. (This forum has some cut-throat restrictions on the individual and total size of images included in posts.)

 

[jcdanzer]

Thank you @wspollack! I meant no disrespect to anyone I was just trying to be as specific as possible. Love your trips! Yeah so it seems like it doesnt appear to add any extra wear and tear to the machine at least near as I near as I can tell but then when you search just CVT a lot of folks say not to do that but perhaps that is midel specific for various reasosns. Thanks again!

 

[wspollack]

Thank you @wspollack! I meant no disrespect to anyone I was just trying to be as specific as possible. Love your trips! Yeah so it seems like it doesnt appear to add any extra wear and tear to the machine at least near as I near as I can tell but then when you search just CVT a lot of folks say not to do that but perhaps that is midel specific for various reasosns. Thanks again!

Hey, no worries, no harm, no foul. I didn't want to waste your time if you only wanted to hear from engineers. It was the best I could do, as I'm certainly not very knowledgeable in terms of what keeps a bike moving down the road. I'm fairly adept at electrical farkles on bikes, but that's pretty much it. And I hope I didn't appear to be snarky or a smartass.

In terms of sliders and weights, CVT-related stuff, I don't know beans about that. There are many discussions here on such mods, but mostly involving the longer-tenured, and now defunct, 600/650 series. I think I vaguely recall a few discussions on such mods with respect to the 400 scoots, but not a whole lot.

I've been on the BurgmanUSA forum for 17+ years now -- I owned two (also now defunct) Burgman 650s for a total of 11 years -- and there are a lot of discussions there, regarding folks messing with slider weights, pulleys, etc., on the various generations of Burgman 400s (the 650s were a whole different system). That's a very active forum, plus there are a lot more Suzuki 400s in the wild than Beemer 400s. It certainly seems like that's an area that a lot of folks like to play with, for either increased take-off speed or higher top end or lower engine revs at certain conditions.

Me, I won't touch anything related to propulsion, especially on a bike under warranty. I had a bad -- and, fortunately for all other owners, apparently unique! -- problem with my '22 C 400 GT. This was an engine failure after 5,000+ miles, and I was without that bike for about five months. That episode ... eventually ... had a happy ending: BMW replaced it with a brand new '23, and while I was waiting I bought a brand new Royal Enfield Meteor 350 (which is a remarkably fun back-road bike, but I ride the scooter about three or four times more often). If you ever get snowed in, down in the bayou, you can read all about this in an agonizingly long thread I started: https://www.bmw-scooters.com/thread...brand-new-23-c-400-gt-free-part-i-of-ii.2932/

So: no knowledge nor experience with playing with propulsion modifications from me.

Still, I would have no reservations taking the C 400 GT on any long-distance trip. The top speed is fine for the fast lane in 70mph zones; I was cruising for hours in the low 80s without incident, and the bike certainly didn't seem to be strained. And I have one local video where I did a pretty steep downhill run on the '22, and recorded the tach, too; the ECU kept things well in check, while the scoot was definitely maxed out, in terms of top speed, going down the hill.

The only thing a bit lacking is that, IMO, the bike gets blown around a bit more than bigger bikes, with side gusts, trucks, etc., which makes sense, given its weight. Not all that objectionable, but it requires a little more concentration. Well, that, and the absence of a real cruise control (something BMW fits or has options for on almost all its other bikes).

I think the best long distance tourer I ever had (for five years) was a Victory Cross Country Tour. Huge, excellent wind protection courtesy of a large fairing and crashbar lowers, maybe the most storage of any bike, no-fuss no muss belt final drive, and factory cruise. I rode that to the inaugural MotoGP weekend in Austin, TX, for instance. But it was also heavy to move around the garage, my wife has mostly stopped being a passenger, and it was very hot in stopped traffic. Oh, and it was heavy to park, lift off the sidestand, etc., and I was getting on in years (and now even older: 76).

So my recommendation would be not to worry about your plans, i.e., if you have the time and inclination, go for it.

This is in contrast, for example, to my Meteor, which unfortunately is not a bike I'll ever be riding down to NC (much as I'd like a picture of it at The Gap). It tops out at 72 (on level ground, about 60 up a grade), and would be running at its rev limiter in forth or fifth gear all day -- I'm sure the engine wouldn't find that type of work pleasant, and it's not even water-cooled.

Good luck with your trip.

 

[jcdanzer]

Thanks Bill I appreciate the advice! I don't presently have a c 400 gt but am just about ready to pull that trigger I think. I have a Rebel 1100 and am generally a "Honda" guy but its basically a naked bike and while I like the bike and it is comfortable, the appeal of the luxuries on the 400 grabbed me. To attempt to make a cruiser as comfortable as a scooter is just not cost effective. Scooters in general with the space to store and fully body protection in a smaller package I love, and the luxuries like the screen/grips/seat etc. Unfortunately the US hates Maxi's for some crazy reason so there are not a lot of options here as im sure you know. I love the 650 but as you said it was discontinued for the aforementioned reason in 2020. I guess I would prefer the c 400 gt to be like an actual 450 CC scoot to make me feel better but at the end of the day it sounds like its not really a problem and I am no speed daemon looking to do anything over 75 to which I know it is more that capable of. Interesting about the wind, the 400 gt is almost as heavy as the rebel and it can get blown around but not to terribly bad unless its sustained 30+ ... interesting. And no, no snarky at all! Love it! Now should I wait for the 2025 or just go with the 2024 lol...

 

[wspollack]

@jcdanzer :

I think the blowing around may be related to the amount of bodywork, given its relatively light weight. Something like your 1100 doesn't have a whole lot of bodywork, right? And yours has a larger front wheel, maybe a longer wheelbase ... um, I don't really know.

Yeah, not a lot of maxi scoots in North America. I used to write Yamaha a letter each year, asking them to bring back the T-Max over here. It was sold for a while in the USA -- and I test-rode one, at Americade one year -- but then they stopped importing it.

In Europe (where the T-Max is doing well, and keeps being updated), the C 400 GT/X are, in my guess, going to get blown away by the latest offerings from Zontes and Voge; those are near equivalents, with actually more features, and cost a lot less (and for all I know may be made in the same Loncin factory in China).

Meanwhile, back to reality over here, you might want to look into the Kymco AK 550. About the same power-to-weight as the defunct Suzuki and Beemers, and lots of modern tech -- it sort of splits the difference between the biggest maxis and the 400s (as does the T-Max, currently at 560cc, I believe). There's a long-time BUSA member who ditched an old 650 for an AK a couple of years ago. He is thrilled with the bike, in terms of oomph, maintenance ease, etc., etc.

The AK was on my radar for a year or so, but I could not find one, within hundreds of miles, to even sit on. And Kymco USA was no help, in terms of my trying to locate a dealership that had one in a showroom. That BUSA guy had to get one something like 400 miles from his home, as I recall. There are a fair number of Kymco dealers, including one three miles from my house, but they tend to stock only the little scooters. The owner there offered to get me an AK 550 ... but only if I paid for it first.

And then, in 2022, my wife and I did Edelweiss' Tuscany By Scooter and Vienna By Scooter, on a C 400 X. She liked the rear-seat ergonomics, including the flat topcase backrest pad, so much that she suggested that I buy a C 400; I ordered one the day after we got back home.

Mind you, I think the C 400 GT looks sharp, and more importantly I think it's the best handling bike I've ever owned, and the brakes are no slouch. So I'm very pleased with it. Still, I think I would also be pleased with the AK 550, which does qualify as a maxi, has the engine mounted in the frame (no swingarm unsprung weight) like the former maxis from BMW and Suzuki (and the current Yamaha).

Regarding year: I don't see anything particularly compelling about the '25 C 400 GT. Bold new graphics, a slightly larger topcase (which I replaced, anyway) and slightly larger cubbies, a slightly reworked underseat storage partitioning scheme, and, for heavens sake, puddle lights! I also have no idea when the '25s will actually arrive over here; you might see if someone at a BMW dealership near you has any info on that. So it might come down to when you want one.

By the way, I was a Honda guy myself, for a time: I owned a Valkyrie Interstate for seven years. And Honda is another company that is not bringing its larger scooters to the USA, and they have some nice offerings.

 

[Hornblower]

Maybe I can give an interesting perspective on this subject. We all know how limited we are in the US with maxi scooters. I really wanted the T-Max Techmax 560 but it wasn't available. I had owned the Yamaha Zuma 125 and, while smaller than I wanted, it was a very good scoot. I bought the C400GT next and was very satisfied, for a while. Wanting just a bit more, I next bought the AK550. The engine, suspension, braking and overall enjoyment far exceeds that of a C400GT, for me. The AK is slightly heavier that the C400GT but not noticeably when riding. Unfortunately, the US version of the AK is not throttle-by-wire and doesn't have cruise control but it does have TPMS which is nice. Presently, I still have both scooters so anyone interested in a mint, low mileage, C400GT, just let me know.

 

[wspollack]

Maybe I can give an interesting perspective on this subject. We all know how limited we are in the US with maxi scooters. I really wanted the T-Max Techmax 560 but it wasn't available. I had owned the Yamaha Zuma 125 and, while smaller than I wanted, it was a very good scoot. I bought the C400GT next and was very satisfied, for a while. Wanting just a bit more, I next bought the AK550. The engine, suspension, braking and overall enjoyment far exceeds that of a C400GT, for me. The AK is slightly heavier that the C400GT but not noticeably when riding. Unfortunately, the US version of the AK is not throttle-by-wire and doesn't have cruise control but it does have TPMS which is nice. Presently, I still have both scooters so anyone interested in a mint, low mileage, C400GT, just let me know.

Ah, nice to be validated: did you notice, above, that I suggested he "might want to look into the Kymco AK 550"?

Yep, even though I'm somewhat of a C 400 GT fanboy, I recognize that there might be better choices out there, depending on how one uses a bike, how much weight one places on, um, weight, and so on and so forth.

As I said, the AK 550 was my first choice to replace a very vintage Burgman 650, but when I couldn't test-fit one AND my wife was really pleased with the pillion accommodations on the C 400, well, it was game over for me.

@Hornblower, just curious: you do your own maintenance, or do you have a Kymco dealer (or indie shop?) in your area, to do that sort of thing? (I gave up doing any maint on my bikes a couple of years ago, when I was 74 or so. Now, I just pay dealerships, on my 400 and Meteor.)

 

[Hornblower]

Ah, nice to be validated: did you notice, above, that I suggested he "might want to look into the Kymco AK 550"?

Yep, even though I'm somewhat of a C 400 GT fanboy, I recognize that there might be better choices out there, depending on how one uses a bike, how much weight one places on, um, weight, and so on and so forth.

As I said, the AK 550 was my first choice to replace a very vintage Burgman 650, but when I couldn't test-fit one AND my wife was really pleased with the pillion accommodations on the C 400, well, it was game over for me.

@Hornblower, just curious: you do your own maintenance, or do you have a Kymco dealer (or indie shop?) in your area, to do that sort of thing? (I gave up doing any maint on my bikes a couple of years ago, when I was 74 or so. Now, I just pay dealerships, on my 400 and Meteor.)

Yes, I did notice that and is primarily why I followed with my post.

I usually do my own maintenance. The closest Kymco dealer is about 60 miles away so I can go there if need be. Of course, parts availability is of some concern but I don't usually hold on to bikes long enough to get into anything serious. I'm still hoping Honda will start importing something like the 750 ADV or Forza. Really, the main reason for my interest in maxi scooters is the step through design. I'm 79 and mounting a regular big bike is noticeably harder. With the higher highway speeds, it's nice to have something with more power for easier cruising. Also, I really like the idea of DCT rather than variator. Just my preference.

 

[wspollack]

Yes, I did notice that and is primarily why I followed with my post.

I usually do my own maintenance. The closest Kymco dealer is about 60 miles away so I can go there if need be. Of course, parts availability is of some concern but I don't usually hold on to bikes long enough to get into anything serious. I'm still hoping Honda will start importing something like the 750 ADV or Forza. Really, the main reason for my interest in maxi scooters is the step through design. I'm 79 and mounting a regular big bike is noticeably harder. With the higher highway speeds, it's nice to have something with more power for easier cruising. Also, I really like the idea of DCT rather than variator. Just my preference.

Hokee smokes: older than me!

 

[Delray]

about 400 or 500 miles each day,

This amazes me. If I do 250 miles in a day, that's a lot.

How many hours in the saddle for 400 or 500 miles? You keep such good stats, I'm guessing you may even have an average mph for the trip.

 

[wspollack]

This amazes me. If I do 250 miles in a day, that's a lot.

How many hours in the saddle for 400 or 500 miles? You keep such good stats, I'm guessing you may even have an average mph for the trip.

Oh, tish tosh, it's no big thing.

The stats are over on the left in the pics.

Let's take that first leg down, day 1 of 2, from home to Staunton, VA. That's listed as 503 miles, in 8 hrs. 27 min., for an average of 60 mph. This was just a boring Interstate-only ride, don't forget.

So, let's say I left at 8am (about my usual start time, as I recall was the case here, or sometimes 8:30ish), that gets me to the hotel at 4:30. Much of that ride was in 65 zones, and then some 70 zones. So let's say I was averaging, oh, 73 in the former and, say, 77 in the latter ... while actually moving. So let's call that, oh, a real moving average of 75 or so. That means that I was actually on the scooter for about 6 and a half hours.

That gives me two hours off the bike, during which time I had a fast-food lunch, plus (I'm guessing here, based on my usual patterns) five stops: I typically stop every half-tank (c. every 80 or so miles) for a stretch, gatorade, maybe a whiz, etc. And then every OTHER half-tank for an actual gas-station stop (for the same reasons as the half-tank rest stops, plus actual petrol).

So, if we subtract from the non-moving two hours, say, half an hour for lunch, 15 minutes X 3 for rest stops, and 20 or so minutes X 2 for gas stops, that's our two hours. Add that to the 6 and half hours on the bike, and that's an 8 and a half-hour day. And that would be done in 7 riding segments, more or less.

That's my off-the-top-of-my-head answer, which seems just boring but not spectacular to me. (And note that on the second day I took a significant back-road detour in the middle, to ride the Back of the Dragon, which I'd never done before.)

Now let's roll the videotape, to check my math against reality ...

Here's the actual speed graph of the day:



Keep in mind that I turn the camera off for lunch stops, and also for longer brakes (especially if they involve a trip to a restroom, as I typically turn off the camera and lock it up).

So, what we have for that day is 7 hrs until arrival at the hotel. But that's not a full 7 hours of riding time, because you have to subtract out those four chunks when the camera was on but my speed is zero. Those four chunks are gas/rest/gas/gas -- I can tell in my software, by clicking on a chunk and seeing the corresponding video frame. The other hour and a half of that day was with the camera off at restroom breaks, I guess.

So, yep, it looks as if I was actually riding about 6 and a half hours that day.

And it was at a pretty good clip for me, that overall average. That is, 60mph -- riding and not riding -- is where I've always topped out, if I'm making good progress, no traffic jams, wide awake on the first day of a trip, and so forth. In my younger days -- in my 50s and 60s -- I used to do a 600-mile first day segment in my visits Asheville: I'd start such trips with a home-to-Salem-VA run, e.g., 8am to 6 or 7pm. So in my dotage now, I purposely scaled the legs down to 400 or 500 miles.

 

[Delray]

Interesting. I don't have your appetite for the interstate. After an hour or so, I crave a change.

From Maine to Florida this summer, I bet my ratio was 35/65 interstate to US-1. I'm the Poky Little Puppy on long rides. I like interruption .... 60 to 65 mph on US-1 for half an hour ... slow down to cruise through a little village ... people watch ... maybe pull over for five minutes to check my cell and stretch a little.

 

[wspollack]

Interesting. I don't have your appetite for the interstate. After an hour or so, I crave a change.

From Maine to Florida this summer, I bet my ratio was 35/65 interstate to US-1. I'm the Poky Little Puppy on long rides. I like interruption .... 60 to 65 mph on US-1 for half an hour ... slow down to cruise through a little village ... people watch ... maybe pull over for five minutes to check my cell and stretch a little.

Oh, I'm with you! The bulk of my mileage each year are my day trips, on the scooter or the Meteor. Back roads, and maybe a nice lunch in the colonial town square of Litchfield, CT, that sort of thing.

I don't like interstates, but in this case I wanted to accomplish these goals:

- Visit family.

- Ride The Back of the Dragon (for the first time), The Tail of the Dragon (for some pics on my C 400 GT and for fun), and the nearby and longer Cherohala Skyway (for the first time).

- And not spend more than eight days away from home (given prior commitments, dr. appts., missing my wife, not spending too much money on hotels, etc.)

You put all that together and it spells interstate-highway riding (which is not completely boring, especially much of I-26 or I-40 in the border areas of NC/TN). If we had a second car, and a trailer, I might just drive down there, and then ride ... but we don't have either of those.

So I do almost no interstates for the rest of the riding season (except for maybe the last 15 minutes of each ride, just to get around Albany).

 

[Delray]

You put all that together and it spells interstate-highway riding

Oh yeah, I get the necessary evil thing.

From Maine to D.C., with the population density of the Northeast, I would have encountered a jillion red lights and stop signs and probably generated an average speed of around 16 mph on US-1. So it was all interstate for the first half of my trip.

In the photo, taken in North Carolina, I-95 is seen to the left of the trees and grass. I took the pic from a driveway on US-1. I rode for hours on that road at 55 to 65 mph, watching hundreds of cars and trucks roar down the interstate. I rarely encountered another vehicle.

I loved the freedom to stop. On an interstate, I will feel anxiety eventually. It's just a matter of time. I start to think about how vulnerable I am, how fast I'm going, how I want to be off this cursed road -- but I'm relegated to the green highway signs that say: "Next Exit 22 Miles."

Btw, if anyone likes road reports, I wrote one for my Maine to Florida journey this summer on a Suzuki Burgman 650. Here is the link: https://www.burgmanusa.com/threads/...gman-650.182426/?post_id=1862294#post-1862294

 

[jcdanzer]

So many things to respond to!!!

Regarding the Kymco- Yes, heavily considered it. The leading contender for the US absolutely as the current leading maxi. I think its sorta....well ugly. That's subjective and really not worth a hill of beans to anyone but just my personal take. It also strikes me as every option thrown at you but none of them mastered well maybe? I looked into some of the maintenance and forget it, seems far more cumbersome than other bikes for sure to maintain yourself (at least for me, not the best wrencher). Lastly, my closest dealer would be 3 hours away altho I can't fault them to much for that because BMW would be the same.

The 2025 Honda ADV-750 would solve all my problems. Damn Europe and all their options.

I also dislike the interstate and prefer the backroads or US highways. Living in Louisiana and relatives in California & Idaho (Oregon was an example) make the interstates necessary unfortunately to some degree.

To @Delray for me, I putt around my local city which is 10 miles out on the regular, groceries or errands & whatnot (I work from home so no work commutes) but that's about all I get. The real enjoyment for me is long distance trips, though, all my long distance trips are really long!

 

[KeithQ]

Thanks Bill I appreciate the advice! I don't presently have a c 400 gt but am just about ready to pull that trigger I think. I have a Rebel 1100 and am generally a "Honda" guy but its basically a naked bike and while I like the bike and it is comfortable, the appeal of the luxuries on the 400 grabbed me. To attempt to make a cruiser as comfortable as a scooter is just not cost effective. Scooters in general with the space to store and fully body protection in a smaller package I love, and the luxuries like the screen/grips/seat etc. Unfortunately the US hates Maxi's for some crazy reason so there are not a lot of options here as im sure you know. I love the 650 but as you said it was discontinued for the aforementioned reason in 2020. I guess I would prefer the c 400 gt to be like an actual 450 CC scoot to make me feel better but at the end of the day it sounds like its not really a problem and I am no speed daemon looking to do anything over 75 to which I know it is more that capable of. Interesting about the wind, the 400 gt is almost as heavy as the rebel and it can get blown around but not to terribly bad unless its sustained 30+ ... interesting. And no, no snarky at all! Love it! Now should I wait for the 2025 or just go with the 2024 lol...

Some interesting similarities here. My last trip riding my 2019 Yamaha FJR1300 this summer made me (finally) realize it was time to look for a lighter bike. Also a long time former Honda guy, mostly ST1100 and later ST1300s. Had a challenge getting it back onto our trailer (Kendon, we pull behind our RV) and figured it was time. Just turned 68. Located a 2020 C650GT in Portland, OR and flew up to ride it back. Seller picked me up at the airport and we went to a grocery store parking lot to unload the bike and do our paperwork. Rode straight back, a little over 2000 miles in 5 days/4 nights.

Stopped in Ontario, SLC, Cortez, CO and Tucumcari, NM. Longest stretch was from the old Route 66 motel back to Bedford, close to DFW airport of 456 miles. My only complaint was a really sore right wrist. Would have willingly given up auto-cancelling turn signals for even a rudimentary cruise control. Now that it is cooler here in north Texas, it has been nice to have a heated seat. Many of my previous bikes have had heated grips, some stock, some added.

All in all, I expect the 400 would perform much like the 650. And yeah, not sure why Yamaha, Suzuki, BMW and even Honda (Silverwing) stopped making the larger scooters. We also have a smaller Xmax 300 we use when we are just 'camping' for a few days and don't need to leave the park for groceries. It will likely go up for sale soon.

I expect you will not have any issues with what you describe as some planned riding. Good luck!

Keith Quigley

 

[jcdanzer]

Hey @wspollack I noticed in one of your videos, I think it was the photo booster video where you had the windshield with the AC window in it. Do you like this? Does it work well or is it just gimmicky? Also curious at where the wind hits you and how tall you are? And any other basic information about that screen that you might have. Thanks!!