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Here a link of the Motorrad page the evolution of the CE04
Video on you tube
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The New Vision CE from BMW
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Looks like a fleet vehicle for metro police and delivery services.
And what is that self balancing feature that they speak of?
And what is that self balancing feature that they speak of?
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Something Honda and BMW try to get right a self balancing mean you don't have to hold it it will stay up right by itself, they have some Gyroscope built in to keep the machine standing up.
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Thanks, it’s gotta feel a bit weird irl but I guess it’s helpful on that new model having a higher center of gravity due to the metal cage.
Still I wonder about slow speed maneuvering with your feet down, like making a u-turn in a tight spot, might need an enable/disable switch otherwise how would you steer if the handlebar is disconnected.
Sounds cool for beginners but I think experienced riders might find it unnecessary or intrusive.
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So basically it's a concept nothing is final on this project.
Here's a link for a page in a French site Le repaire des motards who give a description of the concept and the variations of accessories that BMW for sure want's to sell you at a friendly price...
Have a good week end all
Yves
www.lerepairedesmotards.com
Here's a link for a page in a French site Le repaire des motards who give a description of the concept and the variations of accessories that BMW for sure want's to sell you at a friendly price...
Have a good week end all
Yves
Concept BMW Motorrad Vision CE
25 ans après, BMW Motorrad réinvente le principe du scooter à toit C1 avec le concept électrique Vision CE
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Here's to hoping it'll go into production.
I've ridden a C1 for 15+ years over in Europe but had to sell it when I moved to the US.
The Vision CE would be exactly what I need for my daily commute. Yes, I could take my GS, but protective gear doesn't play too well with office attire and I really don't have a good place to change there.
That's what I loved about the C1: just hop in and you're good to go. And my workplace even has EV chargers...
Plus, the riding season down here in MS is almost year-round.
I've ridden a C1 for 15+ years over in Europe but had to sell it when I moved to the US.
The Vision CE would be exactly what I need for my daily commute. Yes, I could take my GS, but protective gear doesn't play too well with office attire and I really don't have a good place to change there.
That's what I loved about the C1: just hop in and you're good to go. And my workplace even has EV chargers...
Plus, the riding season down here in MS is almost year-round.
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Hmm, nothing new on the Vision CE so far. I doubt it'll be in showrooms next year. And I really want one!
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Hi I don't want to bring your hope down but just for the CE04 the concept bike got release 2017 and the actual release was 2021 and the sales started in 2022.
Since the video of the vision look a lot like a 3D animated film it won't be next year I believe, and the electric mobility concept is not the flavour of the month let's says...
Best regards
Yves
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I'm sadly aware of that. My hopes are due to the fact that while the CE-04 was a completely new construction, the Vision CE is apparently based on the CE-04, so one would assume that the only development necessary would be the integration of the cage.
That is, unless they really want to keep that self-stabilizing feature, which would be new, but where I'm not so sure is really a killer feature.
I think they already have a prototype built, but don't know if that's just a model or actually runs.
So would I be happy with a CE-04 with cage and seatbelts? Sure.
That is, unless they really want to keep that self-stabilizing feature, which would be new, but where I'm not so sure is really a killer feature.
I think they already have a prototype built, but don't know if that's just a model or actually runs.
So would I be happy with a CE-04 with cage and seatbelts? Sure.
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It would make sense if they can increase the battery and the power of the engine, if you had all those elements on the actual CE04 you will have a heavier unit there fore more power consumption.
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I don't think that's relevant, the CE-04 is a heavy beast as it is, so I doubt a few pounds will make a difference.
Plus, to keep the costs down the powertrain for the CE-04 is derived from car parts, I think the battery is part of the battery from an i4(?) and the motor is also derived from a power unit from the iX3.
So they're unlikely to change that, as it would also break compatibility with the CE-04.
I haven't ridden one, but reviews say the CE-04 is really quick off the line as it is, so I don't think that would make a difference.
And for range, aerodynamics play a larger role than weight with a motorcycle, so it might only be a few miles less. If it makes 50 miles, that should be enough for most people. It is designed for cruising around town, after all, not for long road trips.
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No idea if this has any truth to it, but it would be so cool...
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BMW Vision CE 2027 Price In USA | Pre-order And Release Date - Fasterwheeler Us
BMW Vision CE 2027 is an upcoming Bike by BMW with an expected price of USD $12,990 in USA, all specs, features and Price on this page are unofficial, official price, and specs will be update on official announcement.
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The aerodynamics side with the 04 seems so far under considered, excepting insofar as people are noting that it definitely has quite a big part to play in increasing range. To this end, it would be great if we saw some larger, more aerodynamic screens being developed. I come from an airhead (BMW aircooled boxer twin) background and remember there was a particular screen BITD that was developed on these lines – a US brand called Saeng, which fitted other marques too…
I may not be in the majority on this one, but I’d be keen to try something more streamlined like that on the 04 if it became available!
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Regarding the Vision CE, ideally I'd like to see something that makes use of the cage and that provides weather protection, such like a full windshield and roof. As looking through plastic isn't ideal, that would probably need to be a glass windshield with a wiper, as the C1 had. So that's probably unlikely, I expect they will offer a polycarbonate high screen and a roof, but a gap will remain between them, exposing the rider to rain and wind. Well, you can't have everything...
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Hello everyone here the link for a video oof Moto-magazine a French site, right now it's the Lyon motocycle show and BMW presented the prototype of the Vision CE and yes it's self balancing. I don't know if there is english subtitles if not you can practice your French that they try to learn you in High school...
Have a good week.
Yves
Have a good week.
Yves
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Very cool, thank you very much for the find, Yves!
Sadly, there are no English subtitles, but maybe you could enlighten us a bit about what's being said?
It looks like they built a functional prototype? Any info on a production date (although they're likely not to mention that anyways)?
And you mentioned the self-balancing, which is clearly visible in the video, but the rear of the scooter also shows a Radar badge, does that mean it's got blind-spot alerts? That would be way more useful than the self-balancing thing, IMHO...
Sadly, there are no English subtitles, but maybe you could enlighten us a bit about what's being said?
It looks like they built a functional prototype? Any info on a production date (although they're likely not to mention that anyways)?
And you mentioned the self-balancing, which is clearly visible in the video, but the rear of the scooter also shows a Radar badge, does that mean it's got blind-spot alerts? That would be way more useful than the self-balancing thing, IMHO...
wspollack
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For many videos, YouTube will generate subtitles in a language of your choice. That includes this one, and here's what you need to do:
1) Click on the gear, i.e., the settings icon, which brings up this screen. Then, click on the Subtitles/CC (Closed Captioning) icon:
2) That brings up another screen, and on that screen click on the Auto-translate area:
3) That brings up a list of languages. Scroll down until you see English, and click on it:
4) You should now see this display, which should show your chosen English, and the CC icon at the bottom should be solid white. Then click on the gear icon again, to get rid of that settings display:
5) When you now start the video, you should see English subtitles at the bottom, once the talking gets underway:
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Hi Bill,
And here I was thinking AI would eventually be good for something.
When I opened the video, I looked at exactly the setting you are referring to.
I'm not sure why, but I only see
- Off
- French (auto-generated)
Edit: ah, now that I've activated the French auto-generated subtitles and they actually started speaking, that option suddenly appeared.
Not sure I need to understand why...
wspollack
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Click on the Auto-translate rectangle area just below that French (auto-generated) area. See the pick under 2) in my post above (after clicking on the Subtitle line -- see pic under item 1)).
