12000 mile service

[nik2003black]

How much am I looking at for a 12000 mile service in the uk as I'm been quoted between £727 & £923 do they class this as a major service does any one in uk know anywhere better


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[justscootin]

When you go to the dealer ask them if this includes the cost of the belt. The service calls for the belt to be replaced but most of the service techs look at it, they are saying it is fine. So this may come off your quote.

 

[nik2003black]

Just spoke to another dealer & they say there's more stuff on there that didn't need doing till 24000 [emoji33]


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[JaimeC]

Brand new model... they're still learning as they're going along.

 

[Dale]

I wish they would adopt procedures like we did for Airline Maintenance. Detailed inspections, operational and function checks. Rather than replace at certain miles, inspect and replace as required. Do operational checks, example turn on key needles do sweep and lights go out. Function check turn on key needles do sweep lights go out between 3 and 5 seconds, done to a standard. I am into the run to fail, to make this happen without premature failure test and inspections must be accomplished.

Each person will have failures at different times due to riding style. One person may need new belt and chain at 24K the next person may need this maintenance accomplished at 36K. Inspection and test we would know the parts will or will not go to the next inspection.

 

[JaimeC]

Sounds to me that is EXACTLY what the dealers are doing. I know they didn't replace my belt at 12,000 miles. The mechanic said they checked it out and it was just fine. I imagine there are very likely some shops that just blindly replace the belt because "that's what the checklist says to do" but it sounds like a lot of the ones we here are going to are doing it more intelligently.

They did replace the belt on my TMAX at 12,000 miles. Did it look okay? I have no idea. I DO know that the mechanics failed to torque everything to spec afterward because the engine was revving a LOT higher (and having NEVER ridden a CVT before, I thought that was normal after a belt replacement so I didn't say anything) and two weeks later the rear end locked up and I slid to a halt (fortunately vertically, as I wasn't going very fast at the time). That was the primary reason I got rid of the TMAX... I couldn't find a servicing dealer I could trust.

 

[Skutorr]

That was the primary reason I got rid of the TMAX... I couldn't find a servicing dealer I could trust.

...and that is one major reason I do all the work on my bike and help/supervise/drink beer and LAUGH with my brothers' bikes!

 

[JaimeC]

Unfortunately, I'm missing three things:
1) Time
2) Patience
3) Talent.

I just consider myself a "George W. Bush Job Creator" and take my bikes to dealerships I TRUST.

 

[SteveADV]

I'm with you, Jaime, but in all honesty, you, Yellasei, Xian, Oldscoot, Doraemon, Bill Steele, Snowdog, and clearly Skutorr (along with many others I am missing) are so far ahead of guys like me from a "how a motorcycle really works point of view" that...... Wait a minute, what was my point?

Hey, I don't really care how the bike makes the back wheel push and the front wheel steer. I just appreciate the freedom of the ride. Sometimes, it's good to be a simple man.

 

[Snowdog]

I find it interesting that the service manual has no criteria for replacing the belt. You can look for cracking and cord hanging out, but, those problems usually only happen with really old belts. It could start slipping and still look good.

 

[wsteele]

I'm with you, Jaime, but in all honesty, you, Yellasei, Xian, Oldscoot, Doraemon, Bill Steele, Snowdog, and clearly Skutorr (along with many others I am missing) are so far ahead of guys like me from a "how a motorcycle really works point of view" that...... Wait a minute, what was my point?

Hey, I don't really care how the bike makes the back wheel push and the front wheel steer. I just appreciate the freedom of the ride. Sometimes, it's good to be a simple man.

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Well said it is all about the ride, It is nice to know what makes it go but who cares as long as it is not leaving you stranded

 

[yellasei]

our dealership have just quoted around the £600 mark for the 12,000 service. this in my eyes would be different if the chain and sprockets did'nt need replacing, after all the tension is adjustable as long as it's checked and can be adjusted. i think the huge price revolves around this item needed doing.
i know what mine will be getting at this mileage and by this time i should be out of warranty.

 

[Xian Forbes]

This sounds like aircraft ownership. The maintenance schedule, if adhered to, takes care of things BEFORE they become an issue. More precautionary than reactionary

 

[JaimeC]

There you have it. Based on what I'd seen in the past (and it may be different now), the maintenance schedule for BMW seemed to be more "precautionary," and the maintenance schedule for my friends with Japanese bikes was more "reactionary."

For example, my old K100 had the steering bearings replaced every 20,000 miles. It was right there in the owner's manual. For my friend's Honda? "When the steering got notchy." Same thing for fork fluid and a lot of other items... replace when it's so far gone you notice something wrong.

I think this, more than anything else, is responsible for BMW's reputation for "having expensive service." It's also probably more responsible for more BMWs riding around with over 100,000 miles on their odometers than any other brand, too.

 

[Skutorr]

our dealership have just quoted around the £600 mark for the 12,000 service. this in my eyes would be different if the chain and sprockets did'nt need replacing, after all the tension is adjustable as long as it's checked and can be adjusted. i think the huge price revolves around this item needed doing.
i know what mine will be getting at this mileage and by this time i should be out of warranty.

The BMW chain and sprockets are in an oil bath, just like on the Tmaxes. The Tmax chains and sprockets never need to be replaced or adjusted; just change the oil every 4,000 miles.


Honda Silverwings are the SAME; just change the oil every 2 years..



I've seen aftermarket gear/chain sets already for the BMWs, to UPGRADE from OEM. I've also seen pictures of broken rear chain housings, after the sprockets come apart...

If they have the SAME basic design as the Tmax and Silverwing, but have to add an adjuster to compensate for stretch and even then still specify replacement every 12,000 miles, I'd have to say it's substandard parts used to both increase sales profit margin and then ensure bigger maintenance bills to keep the warrantee in effect.

 

[TwoPort]

Ouch.. I got a 12K service quote of $1,331.00.

 

[justscootin]

The maintenance schedule is not consistent for example it calls for at the 10000km check for chain sag
At the 20000km mark it says check for sag then it says replace and the same thing every 10000km after
The same goes for the belt and rollers.

What the maintenance schedule really means is check and replace if needed your dealer is not reading this right (or ripping you off). Question him as to why all this work was not done at the 10000km mark but yet it says at the 20, 30 and 40000km marks.
If there is chain sag there are adjusters that BMW has designed to take up the chain sag for $27 plus labour

 

[TwoPort]

Two dealers have now said chain, belt, and rollers must be replaced at 12K service or the warranty is void. Dang.

 

[TwoPort]

Got the 12k service done. It took a long time. Dealer said it was the second one they had serviced at this mileage point. (12k) I thought it seemed to accelerate better after the service especially at the 30mph to 60mph. The dealer also said they only have one 2014 GT coming in some time in May and they are hard to get. Normally they would have arrived last fall but are very late. Don't know exactly that may mean.

I also noticed others getting service were much more interested in the scooter. There seemed to be more of an understanding that it is a very comfortable motorcycle and a little envy over the CVT.