Motorcycle.com's Maxi Scooter comparison

JaimeC

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2013 Uber Scooter Shootout - Video :

However, they missed the fact that the C650GT not only DOES have a locking glove box (I guess they didn't realize the left side box locks when you lock the fork), but that it also has self-canceling turn signals. Screw ups like that make me wonder what they missed on the other three scoots?
 
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SteveADV

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Interesting. Sounded like they were working hard to find things they could report they didn't like in a couple cases. For what its worth, I have a 33" inseam and have no problem flat footing at lights and really like the seat height. BMW also offers a marginally lower seat height, but not enough to make much of a difference. The wide seat is also super comfortable for me, but could add to the height issue for those more vertically challenged.

Sport touring has been changed forever by these super scoots and opened up the fun to a whole new (or former) group of riders.
 

SteveADV

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I hear yah. Both bikes can do so much it can be frustrating trying to decide between the two if the seat and storage make no difference. I love my GT, but admit to some lust for a 600.
 

JaimeC

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The extra money for the adjustable-on-the-fly windshield, better weather protection, passenger floorboards and increased carrying capacity while in motion (as opposed to "only when you're parked") is what sealed the deal for me.
 

justscootin

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The extra money for the adjustable-on-the-fly windshield, better weather protection, passenger floorboards and increased carrying capacity while in motion (as opposed to "only when you're parked") is what sealed the deal for me.

Exactly you said it all
I also do not like the extra weight on my wrists
 

SteveADV

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Not that the GT is the better of the two; they are setup differently to achieve slightly different objectives. For me, also, the GT hit my numbers more so the 600, but only because of my specific preferences. Good luck trying to decide between the two by trying to figure out which is the "better" bike. There ain't one better than the other.....except to the extent one does more of what you want than the other.
 

rivetts

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One other error in the article is the backrest on the GT is adjustable. There are 3 bolts that have to be removed from under the seat and the backrest has 2 or 3 positions it can be moved to. My seat was in the furthest back position, I wanted it to go back a little further.
 
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JaimeC

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You know, I thought I remembered reading in the owner's manual that the backrest on the C650GT was adjustable, but I wasn't sure so I didn't want to say anything (and I didn't have the manual in front of me when I posted the original note). Thanks for clearing that up.

I remember a review of the TMAX had also said the backrest wasn't adjustable, yet it is adjusted in the exact same manner as the C650GT.
 

Edumakated

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Do the turn signals self-cancel on the BMW? I didn't see anything about them cancelling in my c600 manual? Is that just a 650 feature? I've always been too busy riding and cognizant that my signal is on so I turn it off to notice if they cancel or not.
 

JaimeC

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They certainly self-cancel on mine. It's easy enough to test. Next time you merge onto a highway, don't touch your turn signal and watch what happens.
 

rivetts

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On my GT the signals do cancel after a while, I was going to time it some day but it seems like it takes about a minute or longer. I suppose you don't want them to cancel while you are stopped at a traffic light.
 

justscootin

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On my GT the signals do cancel after a while, I was going to time it some day but it seems like it takes about a minute or longer. I suppose you don't want them to cancel while you are stopped at a traffic light.

The signals will only self cancel while the scooter is in motion not at a stop light.
 

JaimeC

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It's based on time AND distance. Something like 12 seconds and 100 feet. Both conditions have to be met before they shut off.
 

rivetts

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It's based on time AND distance. Something like 12 seconds and 100 feet. Both conditions have to be met before they shut off.

Thanks, I lost sleep last night trying to figure out how the turn signal switch was connected to the movement of the bike. I'm still not sure how it works except there must be a timer involved, which I assumed all along, and a sensor/signal from the odometer? ABS/wheel? Transmission? Have you ever heard of German Over Engineering? This is not the case, but close.
 
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JaimeC

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It's the same system Yamaha used back in the early eighties, actually. Harley's system has one additional sensor which I WISH the others would employ. If you remember from taking just about ANY motorcycle riding course, you slow as you enter a turn, lean the bike and then accelerate through. Well, the Harley system also recognizes the acceleration and once you normalize your speed it cancels the signal. Very clever. I imagine the time/distance algorithm is actually less expensive to employ.
 
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