Prepping for a Long Distance Ride

Edumakated

New member
So I have a cousin who lives in Kentucky and I was thinking of riding the scoot down to see him this fall. It is about a 450 mile ride one way. There are some nice open roads and I figure it could be fun to take a long scenic route. I've never done something like this before. The longest I've ridden in one day is about 120 miles. Not sure if the wife is going to let me yet, but I'll deal with that later. My question for the vets is what items would you carry for sure on a ride this long? Any special bike prep ahead of time? I'll probably be taking back roads where possible. I'm not really looking to super slab it the whole way.
 

wsteele

New member
Since your longest ride so far is only 120 miles you may want to build up yor riding stamina by taking longer and longer rides before you set out on the 450 mile trip. The reason for this is you will get a sense of how long you can go between breaks, don't drink to much caffieine go for water insted, eat a good meal before setting off when you feel tired take a break. The other obvious things are check the oil, tire pressure etc. and a gereral once over of the bike and have a plan for your route that you will be taking and a alternate route. Also bring rain gear it really sucks riding wet and cold.
 

Snowdog

New member
I always take my bike tool kit, tire plug set, electric tire pump, paper towels, rubber gloves, maintenance manual disc, head lamp, magnifier glasses, etc.. Having been a mechanic most of my life, I tend to prepare to do things myself where most people would call dealer service. Bringing a cell phone covers a lot of problems. Belonging to the AMA, AAA, or BMW towing is a good plan.
Riding gear should prepare you for temperatures higher and lower than the weather predictions, plus a full set of (breathable) rain gear, even if it is supposed to be sunny, and an extra pare of what ever glasses you use while riding .
Bring your GPS and maps covering the trip route.
Before you leave, check your tire pressures and tread depth, oil level, coolant level, etc., and look for loose fasteners. Because fasteners that loosen will almost always loosen again, bring a tube of LOCTITE.
Although this could be a "day" ride, it might be fun to take two days and ride the back roads. This will also give you more opportunities for the motorcycle traditional eating in restaurants and diners. ( yes, ice cream stands too).
 

JaimeC

New member
The further you get from home, the more your license plate becomes a conversation starter.
 

Gurock

New member
I've taken many cross country trips on maxi-scooters and motorcycles. I just bough my 2013 C 650 GT in Long Beach, California and rode it to San Diego then cross country through Nevada, Utah, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri and Illinois to Chicago.

IMHO, things you need for a cross country ride (not necessarily in order) are:

1. Good rain gear, nothing is as miserable as riding cold and wet.

2. Good gear in general (quality riding pants/at least kevlar jeans, quality riding jacket, at least some way to go down to mesh in warm months, quality helmet, varying riding gloves, good protection and ones that will keep you drier and warmer as well as not to hot for warm weather, shoes or boots that offer some foot and ankle protection. ACCIDENTS CAN ALWAYS HAPPEN.

3. Extra pair of glasses if you need glasses,

4. Either a helmet that has sun shield or dark shield or sun glasses.

5. Sun screen if you burn easily and mosquito repellent.

6. A cooling vest is nice for Kentucky in the summer.

7. A few tools, (something that works the torx if it's your BMW, screw drivers, robo grip (plier), air gauge, lots of people like to bring a tire repair and small air compressor but I've generally not brought them, motorcycle size jumper cables, but I've not always brought them.

8. Small first aid kit, at least including a couple different bandage sizes and antiseptic or antibiotic cream

9. Normal items like cell phone, music player, GPS or your cell phone has GPS.

10. Either maps for all the states you'll be in or an atlas book. GPS doesn't replace the value of maps.

11. If you're packing some of the items into a bag to go on the luggage rack either that bag should be a true waterproof bag or bring several contractor's bags to put over the bag attached to the bike.

12. Clothes that can layer in case of cold or a heated jacket liner.

Not on the subject of what to bring, but on safe riding. Taking plenty of breaks so that you stay alert is a very good idea. Two hours is a very long time for the average motorcyclist to keep up their attention to the high level they should have. Especially if you haven't made many or any of these trips before 15 minutes off the bike for every hour on the bike is a good idea. On the same subject remember the effects of the wind and weather on your body. If it's sunny and hot your body is loosing hydration not only to the heat but to the wind. You need to keep drinking fluids even if you don't feel that thirsty. The same kind of effect comes from windchill. 32 degrees on a day with no wind will produce a windchill effect of 10 below zero if you're on a bike going 60 MPH. If you're riding in gear/clothes that don't keep your core temperature up you'll quickly sink into a more debilitated physical and mental condition. The same kind of effect will happen to your body in high heat. If it's 95 degrees and sunny your body is using up it's hydration faster then you're going to replace it and your core temperature will rise to a dangerous level quickly with the hot wind of riding. If you don't have a cooling vest take your riding jacket and gloves into a bathroom and pour water all over them. This will protect your skin from having it's hydration leeched away as fast and it will keep your core temperature from rising as fast.

If you have any doubt about your physical condition or feel listless or drowsy it's time to get off the bike for a break. If it's raining hard and you have lost faith in your visibility through the helmet shield it's time to take a break.

Always check the oil, inspect the tires and check their inflation and do a visual once over of the bike. Also if anything seems wrong with the bike question whether taking it on the road is a good idea, especially if you're going by yourself.

Something like AAA is a good idea. I have AAA Platinum which covers motorcycles and RVs as well as cars. They also give you free maps.

I live in Chicago, like you, and you know we just don't have any good riding roads around here. So my riding buddies and I will head up to either the Baraboo area or the Kettle Moraine area in Wisconsin for a Saturday or Sunday day trip. Depending on our routing we'll ride between 300 and 450 miles on one of those day trips. One or two of those kind of day trips are a good idea before taking off for a true highway trip. If you feel that you ever want to go along on a ride like that with our group, drop me a note.

Different people have different ideas about routing a trip like the one you're talking about. Some people will avoid the interstate highways at almost all times. I'm of the view that I use the interstate highways through the boring places and go to the country roads in the interesting places. As an example of what I'm saying my riding buddies and I make a number of weekend trips each year to to the Tri-State (Indiana-Kentucky-Ohio) area to ride the hills and turns around the Ohio River. We will generally leave Chicago on the interstate following the interstates I 90 or 94 to I 65 til we get past Indianapolis. Then we'll either get off I 65 at Columbus, IN and take the country roads or take I 74 out of Indianapolis to Greensburg, IN and country roads after that. This gets you through the boring parts fastest and leaves the most time for the good roads. Also we'll generally stay on the interstate or major roads after dark. After dark the interstates are a lot safer because you're much less likely to hit wildlife. When making this kind of trip one of the greatest risks is hitting wildlife especially deer.

Two years ago I hit a deer up in Kettle Moraine, WI with my Burgman Executive coming hot through a turn (maybe still going 45 when I hit the adult deer) and am very lucky that the damages were only a soar knee and some fiberglass on the bike. In the last five years or so that I've been doing cross country riding I've come very close to hitting deer more then 10 times, I stopped in Wyoming when I saw an Elk in the road and he put his horns down to charge when I saw that I took off again fast, I've had near misses from cows in western open range states hit a Coyote and several small possum or raccoon types. On this last trip from California I was in Colorado having just come down over Independence Pass and they actually warned me (Sign that said wildlife present motorcyclist use extreme caution lit with yellow lights), but it was dusk and I was tired. So like a fool I passed the two cars in front of me that were going 50 in a 60 on US 24 through the mountain forest. The next thing I knew a full grown male Elk ran 10 feet in front of my bike with me going around 60. I was just lucky to get away with being that stupid.

I've also had a two foot by two foot sage brush blow into my Silverwing about five years ago, on US 54 in New Mexico, scratch up the bike and gashed my calf. I should also give honorable mention to having low sided on an FJR at 65 a couple years ago very late at night on I 90 a few miles west of O'Hare due to my front wheel getting tangled up in a piece of truck tire tread.

Saying all of this I'm not trying to scare you from cross country riding, I'll do it at any opportunity. The combination of the adventure of the road, the road with my music going into my helmet, people you get to meet, and beauty of the countryside call to me like a siren. At the same time in seven years and over a hundred thousand miles of adventure/road trips I've been down twice. Once a couple years ago on I 90 and this spring on the Blue Ridge Parkway in Virginia. This spring on the BRP I was racing the mountain top turns on an FJR against my friend with a BMW R 1200 R and I took what was probably my 200th curve late in the day going around 75. As I got into the turn a little hot there was grass clippings that I slid my rear wheel on and I did a high side. The bike was wrecked, I slid on the pavement hitting down at 50-60 and came to a stop. I was wearing good gear from toe to head. The crash wrecked my gear, Firstgear TPG pants, Olympia Transition Jacket, Scorpion EXO 1100 Full face helmet and Olympia riding mesh gloves. As the dust settled I realized that my parts were all still there and my riding buddy was looking down at me. I took a minute to collect myself and got on to my feet. I was pretty lucky, I never had to go to a hospital. I twisted an ankle that just finishing healing, cut the side of my hand where the glove had pulled off, and cut my knees against the hard knee pads in my riding pants, and cut my nose on the face shield of the helmet. Six weeks later the cuts are all healed, my ankle is about 90% and my insurance paid for the bike and gear. Without the gear I'd have been facing skin grafts, and possibly broken bones as well as probable head injuries. Instead my insurance money bought me the BMW C 650 GT and new gear with money to spare and I got to do a fly and ride to Long Beach, CA.

Good luck with your trip plans and definitely have fun.

BTW, one other pointer that the IBA has for endurance riders. Never add things to your bike right before a trip! Aftermarket horns, lights, electrical devices or anything that could affect the way the bike runs without the chance to test them around town for a bit should stay off till your back home.
 

JaimeC

New member
Maps?? How primitive! I bring my laptop with me and every night I run through the mapping program looking for interesting sights along the way. Add them to the route, upload to the GPS and I'm ready to go in the morning. :cool:
 

SteveADV

Active member
J. Cruz, technocrat :D

But, yeah, the more I've played with my GPS, the more I have had a good time "exploring" before I even get on the bike. I'll probably always carry a map 'cause I'm an old guy, but now when planning a day (or longer) trip I use the paper map less and less. Use my iPad a lot, too.
 
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SteveADV

Active member
By the way Gurock, for a first post that is a record.:) I can relate to a couple of the mishaps, for sure.
 

Doraemon

New member
The last time I saw the name gurock, it was a town in Scotland near holylock scotland.
Any relation to scots, or just a coincidence?
 

Edumakated

New member
Thanks for feedback and tips.

I'm thinking primarily of taking back roads, but I do think I may need to really hit the highway till Indianapolis. I agree, it is a pretty horrid drive from Chicago up until that point. My goal is to just see the back roads and little towns. I'm just looking to enjoy the sights and that zen feeling you get on a bike when it is just you and the road not a whole lot of traffic. Most of the way will be on the two or four lane roads through farmland, etc. On my bucket list is to do a cross country ride, but considering I just had my first child 2 months ago, that isn't going to happen anytime soon. However, I have to make this particular drive a couple of times per year, so it is an opportunity to at least get on the bike for a long ride. It will be leisurely so I may realistically have to do it over two days. I'm not trying to do an Ironbutt or impress anyone.

I just wanted to know if there are any must haves I need to bring or any other tips/suggestions a newb like myself may not be thinking about.
 

davidh

Member
I've taken many cross country trips on maxi-scooters and motorcycles. I just bough my 2013 C 650 GT in Long Beach, California and rode it to San Diego then cross country through Nevada, Utah, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri and Illinois to Chicago.

IMHO, things you need for a cross country ride (not necessarily in order) are...

Great list, thank you! The one thing I haven't seen on anyone's list is a 12V USB charger and cables for your phone, GPS, MP3 player, etc. I have a 12V cigarette lighter splitter in the glovebox and my GPS charger on one connection and a 2-port USB charger on the other.
 

Tompierce

New member
All good advice so far - I would add a Kryptonite-type U lock or chain and padlock for securing the bike overnight. Also, a small flashlight and a spare key might come in handy.
 

wsteele

New member
I've taken many cross country trips on maxi-scooters and motorcycles. I just bough my 2013 C 650 GT in Long Beach, California and rode it to San Diego then cross country through Nevada, Utah, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri and Illinois to Chicago.

IMHO, things you need for a cross country ride (not necessarily in order) are:

1. Good rain gear, nothing is as miserable as riding cold and wet.

2. Good gear in general (quality riding pants/at least kevlar jeans, quality riding jacket, at least some way to go down to mesh in warm months, quality helmet, varying riding gloves, good protection and ones that will keep you drier and warmer as well as not to hot for warm weather, shoes or boots that offer some foot and ankle protection. ACCIDENTS CAN ALWAYS HAPPEN.

3. Extra pair of glasses if you need glasses,

4. Either a helmet that has sun shield or dark shield or sun glasses.

5. Sun screen if you burn easily and mosquito repellent.

6. A cooling vest is nice for Kentucky in the summer.

7. A few tools, (something that works the torx if it's your BMW, screw drivers, robo grip (plier), air gauge, lots of people like to bring a tire repair and small air compressor but I've generally not brought them, motorcycle size jumper cables, but I've not always brought them.

8. Small first aid kit, at least including a couple different bandage sizes and antiseptic or antibiotic cream

9. Normal items like cell phone, music player, GPS or your cell phone has GPS.

10. Either maps for all the states you'll be in or an atlas book. GPS doesn't replace the value of maps.

11. If you're packing some of the items into a bag to go on the luggage rack either that bag should be a true waterproof bag or bring several contractor's bags to put over the bag attached to the bike.

12. Clothes that can layer in case of cold or a heated jacket liner.

Not on the subject of what to bring, but on safe riding. Taking plenty of breaks so that you stay alert is a very good idea. Two hours is a very long time for the average motorcyclist to keep up their attention to the high level they should have. Especially if you haven't made many or any of these trips before 15 minutes off the bike for every hour on the bike is a good idea. On the same subject remember the effects of the wind and weather on your body. If it's sunny and hot your body is loosing hydration not only to the heat but to the wind. You need to keep drinking fluids even if you don't feel that thirsty. The same kind of effect comes from windchill. 32 degrees on a day with no wind will produce a windchill effect of 10 below zero if you're on a bike going 60 MPH. If you're riding in gear/clothes that don't keep your core temperature up you'll quickly sink into a more debilitated physical and mental condition. The same kind of effect will happen to your body in high heat. If it's 95 degrees and sunny your body is using up it's hydration faster then you're going to replace it and your core temperature will rise to a dangerous level quickly with the hot wind of riding. If you don't have a cooling vest take your riding jacket and gloves into a bathroom and pour water all over them. This will protect your skin from having it's hydration leeched away as fast and it will keep your core temperature from rising as fast.

If you have any doubt about your physical condition or feel listless or drowsy it's time to get off the bike for a break. If it's raining hard and you have lost faith in your visibility through the helmet shield it's time to take a break.

Always check the oil, inspect the tires and check their inflation and do a visual once over of the bike. Also if anything seems wrong with the bike question whether taking it on the road is a good idea, especially if you're going by yourself.

Something like AAA is a good idea. I have AAA Platinum which covers motorcycles and RVs as well as cars. They also give you free maps.

I live in Chicago, like you, and you know we just don't have any good riding roads around here. So my riding buddies and I will head up to either the Baraboo area or the Kettle Moraine area in Wisconsin for a Saturday or Sunday day trip. Depending on our routing we'll ride between 300 and 450 miles on one of those day trips. One or two of those kind of day trips are a good idea before taking off for a true highway trip. If you feel that you ever want to go along on a ride like that with our group, drop me a note.

Different people have different ideas about routing a trip like the one you're talking about. Some people will avoid the interstate highways at almost all times. I'm of the view that I use the interstate highways through the boring places and go to the country roads in the interesting places. As an example of what I'm saying my riding buddies and I make a number of weekend trips each year to to the Tri-State (Indiana-Kentucky-Ohio) area to ride the hills and turns around the Ohio River. We will generally leave Chicago on the interstate following the interstates I 90 or 94 to I 65 til we get past Indianapolis. Then we'll either get off I 65 at Columbus, IN and take the country roads or take I 74 out of Indianapolis to Greensburg, IN and country roads after that. This gets you through the boring parts fastest and leaves the most time for the good roads. Also we'll generally stay on the interstate or major roads after dark. After dark the interstates are a lot safer because you're much less likely to hit wildlife. When making this kind of trip one of the greatest risks is hitting wildlife especially deer.

Two years ago I hit a deer up in Kettle Moraine, WI with my Burgman Executive coming hot through a turn (maybe still going 45 when I hit the adult deer) and am very lucky that the damages were only a soar knee and some fiberglass on the bike. In the last five years or so that I've been doing cross country riding I've come very close to hitting deer more then 10 times, I stopped in Wyoming when I saw an Elk in the road and he put his horns down to charge when I saw that I took off again fast, I've had near misses from cows in western open range states hit a Coyote and several small possum or raccoon types. On this last trip from California I was in Colorado having just come down over Independence Pass and they actually warned me (Sign that said wildlife present motorcyclist use extreme caution lit with yellow lights), but it was dusk and I was tired. So like a fool I passed the two cars in front of me that were going 50 in a 60 on US 24 through the mountain forest. The next thing I knew a full grown male Elk ran 10 feet in front of my bike with me going around 60. I was just lucky to get away with being that stupid.

I've also had a two foot by two foot sage brush blow into my Silverwing about five years ago, on US 54 in New Mexico, scratch up the bike and gashed my calf. I should also give honorable mention to having low sided on an FJR at 65 a couple years ago very late at night on I 90 a few miles west of O'Hare due to my front wheel getting tangled up in a piece of truck tire tread.

Saying all of this I'm not trying to scare you from cross country riding, I'll do it at any opportunity. The combination of the adventure of the road, the road with my music going into my helmet, people you get to meet, and beauty of the countryside call to me like a siren. At the same time in seven years and over a hundred thousand miles of adventure/road trips I've been down twice. Once a couple years ago on I 90 and this spring on the Blue Ridge Parkway in Virginia. This spring on the BRP I was racing the mountain top turns on an FJR against my friend with a BMW R 1200 R and I took what was probably my 200th curve late in the day going around 75. As I got into the turn a little hot there was grass clippings that I slid my rear wheel on and I did a high side. The bike was wrecked, I slid on the pavement hitting down at 50-60 and came to a stop. I was wearing good gear from toe to head. The crash wrecked my gear, Firstgear TPG pants, Olympia Transition Jacket, Scorpion EXO 1100 Full face helmet and Olympia riding mesh gloves. As the dust settled I realized that my parts were all still there and my riding buddy was looking down at me. I took a minute to collect myself and got on to my feet. I was pretty lucky, I never had to go to a hospital. I twisted an ankle that just finishing healing, cut the side of my hand where the glove had pulled off, and cut my knees against the hard knee pads in my riding pants, and cut my nose on the face shield of the helmet. Six weeks later the cuts are all healed, my ankle is about 90% and my insurance paid for the bike and gear. Without the gear I'd have been facing skin grafts, and possibly broken bones as well as probable head injuries. Instead my insurance money bought me the BMW C 650 GT and new gear with money to spare and I got to do a fly and ride to Long Beach, CA.

Good luck with your trip plans and definitely have fun.

BTW, one other pointer that the IBA has for endurance riders. Never add things to your bike right before a trip! Aftermarket horns, lights, electrical devices or anything that could affect the way the bike runs without the chance to test them around town for a bit should stay off till your back home.[/QUOTE














Wow that was some 1st post a lot of good things said I can't wait for post No.2
 

Gurock

New member
Thanks for the "thanks". I just forgot to mention the adapter for the 12v socket and cables to charge electronics, I also have a small battery that will charge my I phone and Galaxy Tab. Perhaps it's just me, yet I am a fairly capable person with computers, but I find that GPS doesn't replace maps for me. I still want and like both.
 

JaimeC

New member
I'm going to quote what I heard at the Blue Nose Rally (Nova Scotia) many many years ago: The two most important things is a good rain suit, and a sense of humor. That was in regards to riding in the Canadian Maritimes, but it is pretty much applicable just about anywhere in my experience.

And remember: The worse the experience, the better the stories afterward.
 

Wylie7

New member
I just got back from a 700 mile round trip to the north
Yorkshire Dales and as usual with me I wondered briefly about 'stuff to bring' as I was about 100 miles in to it.....the one useful thing I do keep on the bike is a tubeless repair kit....


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JaimeC

New member
Yeah, back in the day, BMW used to include a kit with every bike they sold. Now you have to buy it extra. Still, it's worth the piece of mind. I've found myself using it many times... but only once did I have to use it on my OWN bike.
 

exavid

Member
Main things to carry are a credit card and cell phone. A set of Frogg Toggs is worth taking along. No need to carry a lot of stuff because you're only going a day's ride and there's plenty of places to pick up something you need. I'd carry a charger cable to keep your cell phone going especially if you have a GPS program on it. But that would be about all the extras. I do have a small air compressor and a plug set that I usually have in the scoot. But there's no reason to over do it since it's not a long trip and it's not in the wilds of Yukon Territory or Alaska where facilities are far apart.
 

scooterdog

New member
Gurock

Did you find the fuel range of the scooter adequate for across country travel? I plan on taking mine to the midwest this summer. Fuel can be few and far between in Nevada and Utah.
 
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