Stop Sale On GT's

TwoPort

Member
I was at the dealer today getting my new kickstand on and on the check-in vaguely noticed them looking at what first seemed like the radiator but then I realized was more like looking at the front brake and following the line up.

Then after getting in the showroom someone came in asking about buying a GT the sales rep said there is a "Stop Sale" on GT's that came from BMW. As a result the dealer could not sell a used '13 GT they just took in last week until the fix comes out. It was explained to me that the issue relates to a possible front brake problem that a couple European folks experienced. The front brake line rubs against something and can potentially cause it to leak. Further, BMW said they won't have a fix until maybe February '16 so they were frustrated they would have to hold the GT in the back until the fix comes in. The only comment he made about the Stop Sale memo was "you'd have to keep moving the steering from lock to lock a thousand times to maybe create the condition so it is stupid."

http://www.bmwmotorcycle.com/2013-BMW-C650GT-inventory.htm?id=977225&used=1&fm=2&vin=ZC93801

It "will not" be a NTSB recall and they aren't doing anything to existing bikes except inspecting them - and haven't seen any problems. So once the "fix" is released he said they will just do the changes when people bring them in for service.

BTW - my front brake lines were fine.
 
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justscootin

Member
Up here in Canada it is an official recall

BMW issued a recall on the C600 SPORT, and C650GT models
BMW issued a recall on the C600 SPORT, and C650GT models
On certain motorcycles, the front brake hose could fatigue and crack due to tight left turning manoeuvres. The outer protective covering of the brake hose may kink due to excessive bending stress, causing the outer...
Transport Canada - Motor Vehicle Safety Recalls

http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/7/VRDB-BDRV/search-recherche/detail.aspx?lang=eng&rn=2015527
 
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exavid

Member
I just ran into the problem as well. I have an intermittent problem with starting the scooter. I think it's either in the headlight switch or heatdlight relay(s). I called the dealer and he said they'd come by my place and pick up the bike but due to a "Do not ride" notice from BMW once he had the scooter he'd have to keep it until the parts for the service recall came in and were installed. It looks like they won't get the parts until the end of January or so. I sure don't want to be without the scooter for that long so will keep it home. I'm a little leery of it not starting occasionally so I guess I'm going to have to dig into that problem instead of taking it to the dealer.
Sure wish I'd kept my K1100LT, don't like being caught without a backup bike.
 

dascooter

New member
Wow. Hadn't heard about the Fo not ride. Think I'll just keep an eye on it. Starting to get cold so riding will be limited. Did get a nice ride in today though.


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TwoPort

Member
My understanding was there is not a "Do Not Ride" - at least in the US. But exdavid said his dealer used those words. That is quite different from a Stop Sale. There is no NTSB posting. It began purely as a voluntary action by BMW related to selling and that has to do with the front brake lines being fatigued as explained above in the Canada posting.

My bike had work done on it after the BMW Stop Sale and I took delivery afterwards as usual with no comments about keeping it until some future time. I did notice them inspecting the front brake lines - which is the only issue at hand (so far as I know) and the brake lines exhibit no "fatigue or cracks." I'll be careful not to engage in tight left hand turns without inspecting again. I feel a little torn on this one. Part of me feels like it's too much big brother over-mandating and the other part is wary of something latent I should worry about.

While brakes are a critical issue I feel like in context inspecting the brake lines was sufficient for me to continue riding.
 

exavid

Member
Turns out my dealer got incorrect information. He called me yesterday afternoon. I was indeed a 'stop sale' order. I've since checked my bikes front brake lines and don't see any problem with them. It was worth looking into for me because I usually park the scooter with the fork locked to protect the scooter and the contents of the left cubby. All you really have to do is take off the handlebar cover and trace the front brake hoses with the fork hard left to see if there's any tension or chafing going on.
 

JaimeC

New member
From what I just read on the Asphalt &Rubber website, the recall in the States is only for the Sport model, not the GT. Curious...
 

TwoPort

Member
Yeah. I've got the GT (the better model) so I guess it applies to us as well. Brakes are serious stuff. The good news is we'll get a replacement made out of ethylene propylene diene monomer (EPDM) rubber which is obviously much better. None of that stiffy PVC hose covering :confused:

It did make me think to leave valuables out of the locking box and just "don't lock" the wheel. I saw the dealer inspecting the front brake hoses but didn't specify exactly where the kink might occur should I hope to keep an eye on it myself.
 

exavid

Member
Could be worse. It could be the rear brake. I took a look at my GT and didn't see any serious sharp bend or kinking. Hopefully it won't take too long before dealers get new parts. Good way to get a free front brake fluid replacement.
 
Up here in Canada it is an official recall

BMW issued a recall on the C600 SPORT, and C650GT models
BMW issued a recall on the C600 SPORT, and C650GT models
On certain motorcycles, the front brake hose could fatigue and crack due to tight left turning manoeuvres. The outer protective covering of the brake hose may kink due to excessive bending stress, causing the outer...
Transport Canada - Motor Vehicle Safety Recalls

http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/7/VRDB-BDRV/search-recherche/detail.aspx?lang=eng&rn=2015527

Did you get yours done and if so, where?
 

JaimeC

New member
Apparently, the parts aren't available yet... don't think anyone has had the problem "fixed," just inspected to see if the problem is occurring. I don't lock my forks when I'm home as the scooter is in a locked garage but I do lock them when parked on the street or outdoors so... yes, my forks do routinely get in the "full lock left" position often. :(

On the bright side, according to the articles I linked, they haven't seen an example of this failure in the States (yet).
 

justscootin

Member
Hey Colin
I have not even looked into it yet
One of the earlier recalls I found out on the BMW MOA forum the first day. I went to the dealer and they did not hear about it at that time. It was about 2 months before they even heard of the recall. Also if I recall BMW Canada will send you a letter to let you know of the recall and that maybe when parts will be available.

I am in no rush as I just changed my brake fluid recently and will replaced my pads early spring

Did you get yours done and if so, where?
 
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Snowdog

New member
Yeah. I've got the GT (the better model) so I guess it applies to us as well. Brakes are serious stuff. The good news is we'll get a replacement made out of ethylene propylene diene monomer (EPDM) rubber which is obviously much better. None of that stiffy PVC hose covering :confused:

It did make me think to leave valuables out of the locking box and just "don't lock" the wheel. I saw the dealer inspecting the front brake hoses but didn't specify exactly where the kink might occur should I hope to keep an eye on it myself.
Here is the reason to inspect your bike on a regular basis, so you know when something is different. Read broken. And, if you didn't touch it, you didn't check it. (except rotating or moving parts.)
 
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