20k service on Tuesday.

Joeboxer82is

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The belt looks in good shape and the rollers aren't in to bad of shape a lot of times up you can clean out the dust and crud at the rollers and the shoe and the bike will run a lot better the only thing is if you are going through that trouble you mite as we'll change them. The big deal is getting all the plastic on the bike off. The Gilera 500 I own I can get at the rollers and belt and use compressed air and blow out all the crud and the bike runs much smoother for quite awhile, also I don't have to deal with as much plastic as the 650 gt has.

That's what i thought too. I think i'll try extending e belt replacement interval to maybe 25,000-30,000km and see how it goes.e labour charges is really high here and e same in other parts of e world as well... I hope e pics come in helpful for most of us. I would also love to see e receipts from e others who have done e 12,000miles/20,000km service and maybe some pics of e components...
 

wsteele

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The Singapore dollar is 25 cents less than the U S dollar, the $832.00 I was quoted is right in line with what you paid It seems BMW has got it figured out that we will all pay the same price no matter where you live.
 

Joeboxer82is

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The Singapore dollar is 25 cents less than the U S dollar, the $832.00 I was quoted is right in line with what you paid It seems BMW has got it figured out that we will all pay the same price no matter where you live.

Yeah i think u're right... They're smart.
 

helmetbox

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The long list to remove the belt
 

tonictone

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I've just had quotes from 2 UK dealers for this - pretty similar at just under £690, which is £575 before sales tax/VAT. One dealer quoted "around £780" before I asked (again) for a breakdown, the 2nd missed the chain replacement off the quote (which seems to work out at circa £150) - guess it just shows they haven't shifted that many here.
 

Joeboxer82is

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I've just had quotes from 2 UK dealers for this - pretty similar at just under £690, which is £575 before sales tax/VAT. One dealer quoted "around £780" before I asked (again) for a breakdown, the 2nd missed the chain replacement off the quote (which seems to work out at circa £150) - guess it just shows they haven't shifted that many here.

It seems e prices are all within that range...
 

wsteele

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I just got back from BMW for the 12000 mile service I made the appointment about 3 weeks ago I got there at 9 am well at about 12:45 pm I went and asked how much longer it would be and they were just billing it out I get the bill and it was for $258.00 WOW! the service guy said that they didn't have the rollers,belt or chain but they took the machine apart and checked belt,rollers and chain all were good and did not need replacement they did install new air filter fuel treatment ajusted brakes and all the other thing on the list minus the oil and filter which I had done before going there. My thoughts are you really don't need the 12000 mile service or belt or rollers or the chain, and the 6000 mile after(18000 miles) is not necessary except for the oil and filter. also the brake fluid only needs to be replaced every other year. I believe BMW has us come in just so they can check how the machine is doing and also charging us to do it. I think 3 weeks heads up is more than enough time to get the parts for the 12000 mile service, They said to me every thing is back ordered and may be a month or two before they see parts HMMM! also the timing belt is also back ordered and will be a couple of months again Hmmm! So there you go draw your own conclusions. I ment chain tensioner
 
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Snowdog

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Belts are made of many materials and chemicals, and every manufacturer has their proprietary blends. You can't tell from a picture.
 

Gurock

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I had my 12,000 mile maintenance done about ten days ago. I bought the C 650 GT used with 4,500 miles on it, but the dealer had done the 6,000 mile maintenance as part of the deal for buying it. That was Long Beach BMW in California. About a month ago I needed to replace tires due to picking up sheet metal screws. I brought the bike to the only BMW dealer in Chicago and was very disappointed. They changed the tires for a close to reasonable price for Metzlers, but I told them that my tire inflator had blown the fuse for the accessory plug and asked them to change it. They argued with me telling me that the bike has no fuses. When they gave me back the bike they'd changed the fuse, but charged me $50.00 to change it. If that wasn't bad enough I asked the service people about putting in Dr. Pulley sliders and guides. The service people didn't know what sliders and guides were! I also asked them to do the Cam Chain Tensioner Recall and the service manager first didn't know what I was talking about, then gave me a song and dance about having to register with BMW corporate before they could do any warranty work! Knowing this I made up my mind that I don't want them to work on my bike unless it's an emergency.

Knowing that and knowing I was going to Missouri for a Maxi-Scooter Rally I decided to have Gateway BMW in St Louis do my 12,000 mile service. It was like night and day. The worst part for me is that they're 300 miles from home and I had to get up at 4 AM to make sure that I'd have the bike there before 1:00 in the afternoon. Gateway in St Louis told me on the phone when I was setting up the appointment that I needed the Cam Chain Tensioner Recall and that they would do it for me. Then they went through all the items on the 12,000 mile list and told me which ones they felt I could skip if I wanted to. I skipped the Brake Fluid change, they inspected the belt, chain and sliders saying that I didn't need to replace any of these if I didn't want to. I also think that they didn't double charge labor for taking some of the bike apart and together as they may have had to do that for the recall. Making a long story short they charged me $310.00 which included changing the oil and filter, air filter and a lot of inspection items. In addition they told me that they would be happy to change the sliders and guides for me when I have them. 300 miles is a long way to go for bike service, but I go out west here and now for various reasons of my own and feel that I just need to plan things to let them do my service.

I just agree with others here that changing the brake fluid at one year and 12,000 miles is silly. I also think that changing parts like belts and chains when inspection shows them to still be fine is silly. I'm the furthest thing from being a mechanic and freely admit that I don't understand lots of mechanical items on bikes or scooters, but I know when I'm being had and I know that I don't want people working on my bike that understand less then I do. Countryside BMW near Chicago may be a fine place (although I doubt it) to have a R 1200 RT worked on, but they don't have a clue about C 650 GT scooters.
 

wsteele

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I think a lot of the dealers are so unfilmiler with these bikes that they would rather not bother with our scooters The thing is as the population gets older there will be more and more people riding these bikes and they wil be forced to deal with them sooner rather than later.
 

Gurock

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I think you're right, but as an owner of one of the scooters I want the people that work on it to know what they're doing. Also, I think there are major differences from one dealer to another in their approach, customer service and greed. For what it's worth I got the feeling that the management at Countryside BMW (around Chicago) was arrogant and greedy. On the other hand I got the feeling that Gateway BMW (around St Louis) was very customer oriented and much less greedy.

My first Scooter in the US was a Honda Silverwing that I bought new in 2006. I bought it from a dealer that's since gone under. At 600 miles I was all concerned to get the 600 mile maintenance done and called the dealer I bought it from. They told me that they were backlogged close to a month to get me in and that the service would be almost $400.00 when they could get to it. I was shocked at the price and didn't want to wait for their delay, so I called another Honda Dealer, Des Plaines Honda. They said they could do the service on the upcoming Saturday morning while I waited and that the price would be $125.00. They ended up doing all my service on the Silverwing till I sold it last year. They're great people to do business with.

For what it's worth the Silverwing was a very good scooter. It took me over 30,000 miles and never needed any repair that wasn't maintenance or the one other repair when a thief tried to steal the bike by breaking the ignition lock that I then had to replace. I really sold the Silverwing because it just rode less well then the Burgman 650 I replaced it with both in comfort and handling. After a while I wanted a bike that could do more then the Burgman 650 and went to a Yamaha FJR 1300. In May I slid out my FJR and the insurance totaled it. I had $6,500.00 in the FJR and the insurance gave me $11,000.00 for the bike. The combination of getting arthritis, age, and that FJRs seemed to get me into trouble made me look in other directions. In my replacement search I looked at all kinds of bikes from Goldwings to cruisers to the BMW C 650 and I just liked the C 650 the best. Just as icing on the cake I found the 2013 C 650 GT for $7,000.00 with 4,500 miles and the 6,000 mile service thrown in.
 

SteveADV

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You got a great deal on your GT! And I'm with you about how much difference the right dealer can make.
 

Gurock

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I also had the fun of using an air mile ticket to fly from Chicago to Long Beach, CA. then to ride the bike home to Chicago by way of San Diego, Las Vegas, Utah, and Colorado. While that cost me a little wear and tear, gasoline and hotels (except in San Diego and Las Vegas where I have friends and relatives). I got a chance to learn the bike better and have a great time.

BTW: the Long Beach BMW people weren't that bright about C 650 GTs. The salesman insisted on demonstrating how everything worked on the bike and broke the gas cap cover by opening the seat and gas cap cover at the same time. My red C 650 GT is one of the very few that has a black gas cap filler cover due to their having to replace it with the soft shell 2014 cover.
 
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