Is Harley-Davidson the WORST motorcycle money can buy??

JaimeC

New member
It's weird... I had that slight oil seepage on the swingarm on my trip out to Indianapolis last summer. After I washed the bike, it never happened again. <Shrug>
 

FloridianRobert

New member
I can't get it to stop. The dealer swears it is coming from the small valve on the top, but it really looks like it is bleeding through the gasket. A new gasket later and it's still there. Drives me nuts! :)
 

JaimeC

New member
Yeah, I was concerned, because the stain went all the way around the swingarm. Nothing dripping or anything, just the oil stain. And after a good washing, it never came back. Weird.
 

Skutorr

Active member
The basic problem with "Gray Market Imports" like that are the fact that the US-based dealerships are probably NOT going to be able to provide you any service or support. Your brother is pretty much going to be on his own. If he's handy in the shop, that's not an issue but for someone like me, that's a deal-breaker.

The local Yamaha Dealer has no problem with servicing it. All the Tmax 530 parts come from the same North American Warehouse as every other Yamaha part. He can get anything we'll need. There is no more Yamaha Canada and US, other than their than websites. It's all consolidated into ONE importer, with two divisions; Canada and US.
 

SteveADV

Active member
Well, boys, all that is well and good but the fact is that my C650GT is easy to get out of the garage and a blast to ride with absolutely 0 problems. I agree with Oldscoot..."You pay your dollar - you take your chance."
 

SteveADV

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Another thought re: Yamahoo...Oh well, it wasn't really a thought, it's more of an observation and it isn't as much of a competition as some of us would like to think....The quality of the dealership makes a HUGE difference in the motorcycle business. For those reading this that are considering buying anything, know this....that is a fact unless you are a qualified mechanic and (VERY importantly) want to do your own maintenance and trouble shooting.

As for me, give me the best ride and the best dealer and I am a happy guy.

(NOTE: I started to edit the "Yamahoo" but that was the name used years ago at my local dirt track. I truly mean no disrespect. YAMAHA is a great brand. And, frankly, so is Harley. They both have done so much for the bike world they deserve our respect.)
 
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SteveADV

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My primary dirt bike was a small Yamaha. It was great but I beat it up too much and it eventually decided to retire. My next was a dual purpose Kawasaki. I could not kill that bike no matter how much I tried...and I did try.

A couple decades later and I decide to get back into riding and researched and rode and researched and rode. I think I tried everything in the midsize range but a Victory. Unlike others that have more than one bike, I knew I would owning just one*.

Once I got past the "scooter is not a real motorcycle" mindset, the C650GT was ahead of every thing else I tried....for me. I have ridden with Harley guys and have never had some of the issues others have talked about. I fact, the only negative comment I ever had was from one of my daughters who said the 650GT was too big for me (I'm 6'2" and weigh 210 - me thinks she remembered my dirt bikes and maybe thought I would be trying to fly over moguls with my new toy).

And after 4300 miles no problems of any kind even though I have done a few semi-off road excursions that the bike is not designed for.

Anyhow, I have seen many justify their ownership of whatever bike they own by putting other bikes down. Not my style, but I will say I tried the others and am very satisfied with the Beemer. Even though it was more expensive than other options, I feel I got my money's worth.

*Since coming back to riding, I have enjoyed it so much I am going back to my BMW dealer and looking at adding an 800GS.
 

exavid

Member
I've owned a Silverwing scooter, Burgman650 and now the 650GT. I liked a lot about the Burgman but they have experienced some transmission failures that are in the $3k area to have fixed or half that and a lot of work. I still had my Goldwing when I got the Burgman and kept it because I wasn't sure about the Bugman's reliability. I wasn't too happy about its fat rump either. I'm taking a chance on a low mileage (69) BMW650. I've only put around 500 miles on it so far but so far so good. Of the three scooters and a Yamaha T-max that I tried out awhile back I have to give the thumbs up to the BMW. I didn't really want to like this scoot because I really don't like BMW's marketing and serviceability. With a Honda or Burgman it's easy to get a shop service manual written in English. OEM Parts are easily available on the 'net at reasonable prices. BMW reminds me of Apple. Stingy with information and expensive parts.
Even so however, the BMW 650GT is just such a great scooter to ride I hope this one holds up for many, many miles.
 
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